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On Failure

Danny Elfman

Lesson time 12:33 min

Even seasoned composers like Danny face failure and have to pick themselves up again. By opening up about a temporary falling-out with Tim Burton, Danny shows how to overcome your ego and persevere in the face of failure.

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Danny Elfman
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Oscar-nominated composer Danny Elfman teaches you his eclectic creative process and his approach to elevating a story with sound.
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[MUSIC PLAYING] - Here's a word that you're going to face, and you're not going to like this word. It's the nastiest word in the business-- failure. You are going to fail. You are going to fail at something small, or you're going to fail at something large. There's very few composers-- well, honest composers-- that I've talked with that haven't had failures. Things that they saw as incredible roadblocks were suddenly put in the way. Or failure that left them-- their ego depleted to the point where they had a hard time getting going again. That's part of the territory. You can be that amazing lucky one that has a life that is without failure. And to you, I wish you bon voyage and wonderful journeys. But to the other 90% of you who might be watching this, failure is going to be part of your existence. How do you deal with that? It's hard. On the small levels, there is the moment-to-moment failure of getting turned down for a job. Starts there. Let it go, let it go. And, like, refocus yourself and get back going. There's no other way to do it. Now, the next level. You're working as a composer. Things are going okay. But your scores are getting rejected. You have to find a way to be okay with it. You're going to be-- if you're like me, you get really bitter and maybe feel angry. But you've got to find something to do. I mean, for me, it was boxing. I got into boxing very young. And what the boxing does, like any form of martial arts, or anything physical you could find is, I work out a lot of fucking energy of how hard I'd love to hit that bastard who just gave me so much shit on the last score. And hit, and hit, and hit, and hit until I start to feel a little bit better. So there are ways to deal with rejection, and one great way is just any physical discipline. And if it's a physical discipline that involves some form of contact-- (CHUCKLES)-- better yet. But the point is, is there is another level. Where, it's just, there's no way to deal with rejection and resistance to things that you can't do anything more than you're doing. You just have to be patient and wait. And waiting is hard, but it's just killing you. But you just have to work through that. And then there's the big bomb. You actually do a whole score, or you're halfway through a score, and you're fired. Very few of us haven't had that happen. And this is where I'm talking about the rejection that lays you out. It just lays you out, and you have to take time and get up from it, because it's an absolute ego destroyer. And we all know that artists get consumed with their own frustration and their own anger and become self-destructive, and go down a spiral to just being screwed. We've all heard about it, we've read about it, and we've seen it. It's like somebody just gets into a negative vortex and they can't climb out of it. And you don't let that happen. And the way you don't let that happen is to somehow take the pain of what you're feeling. Whethe...


Music out of chaos

From The Simpsons theme to the soundtracks of Tim Burton’s Pee-wee’s Big Adventure and The Nightmare Before Christmas, Danny Elfman’s compositions are original, memorable, and exuberantly weird. Now the Oingo Boingo founder and four-time Oscar nominee shares his unconventional (and uncensored) creative process. Step into Danny’s studio and learn his techniques for evoking emotion and elevating a story through music.



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Students give MasterClass an average rating of 4.7 out of 5 stars.

funny we have many things in common very interesting

Yes I would love to make music scores to my genre of movie and the story im working on more true to life romantic, inspirational story

Enjoyed listening to the way Danny discussed what he was thinking while writing numerous projects, especially the insecurity he feels all the time, which I do as well. I wish there were more specific examples.

It made me feel a lot more confident about composing for film.


Comments

Antonia T.

Wow. The story with Tim is very sad & powerful. Like life. I'm glad they managed to reconnect after a fight and continue working together. That takes a lot of courage, love and maturity, Bravo to both! And thanks, Danny, for open up to us and teaching us this valuable lesson about life, friendship & work.

Antonia T.

There is a quote by the great Woody Allen that I love: "If you're not failing every now and again, it's a sign you're not doing anything very innovative".

Suzanne W.

This is wonderful advice! All artists experience failure and it is hard to pick the pieces and go on with a smile. I love to hear that someone of Danny's caliber has to deal with rejection and failure. Thank you!

A fellow student

Everyone who does any master class should watch this no matter what you're interested in. Great advice for any field.

Joel S.

Love this honesty! I’ve been through this on a much smaller scale. Makes me feel great to know that DANNY understands and has been there too. I can overcome this shit!

Mark B.

Danny is such an amazing person. Love his honesty and life lessons as much as musical genius.

simon B.

Wow I realise now that I could actually become a composer. Both in spite of and probably also because of how I am constituted in my crazy mind. I should just go for it and see it as being strange enough for the job and also human enough. So maybe not be so filled with doubt about my abilities or anxious about me being good enough because flaws are there and it's possible to do stuff anyways if one does not let them govern what to even begin trying to do. I needed this lesson.

Thiago S.

It's amazing to see such a huge composer opening up the darker, most human side of himself in such a candid way. I could relate to almost everything Danny said here, and this is a very empowering feeling: even with all his success, he goes through shitty moments, bad decisions, and overly emotional responses. We're all human, after all!

A fellow student

Thank you so much! Seeing how passionate you are about your job made me understand how you’ve achieved so much and given us so many great scores! I’ve always been and remain a huge fan!

A fellow student

I just got over a failure, not even musical in nature, just a failed friendship that I know can never come back. The friendship ended while I was in a hospital bed after a bad heart attack (are there good ones?). Mr. Elfman, maybe you didn't expect to help people in other aspects of their life besides their music path, but you just did. This was oddly cathartic, and helped so much, I wish I could thank you in person, but I will certainly settle for this forum. Thank you, thank you, thank you.