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Revising and Getting Feedback

R.L. Stine

Lesson time 8:18 min

Learn how to first revise on your own and then seek honest feedback. Bob teaches you what questions to ask of your draft-readers and editors—and how to take criticism in stride.

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When I've finished a manuscript and I have a first draft of a book, I go back up to the beginning and I read it. And I read it as a reader, but I also, read it looking for a lot of things. And I look for scenes that seem to drag. I look for mistakes that I've made. Once, I wrote a manuscript about a boy named, Chris, and halfway through the book, his name was Jack, and his name changed halfway through. But I caught it. After the first draft, I caught it, and I was able to change it. So you look for mistakes. I always look for weather mistakes. You're always saying, it was a cloudy day and then, suddenly, the sun is on the next page. I look for consistency, all the way through. And then, I look for typos-- typing's very important to me. And then, I look for scenes that don't go far enough. And a lot of times, I'll have some scary scene that I've done in the first draft and I'm looking at it and I think, I can make this scarier. I've have it down already. I can just take what I have, but I can increase the horror. I can slow it down. I can add this. I can add more feeling. I can have the kid more scared. It should be more. And I usually do that, almost in every manuscript, when I go through the second time because you have something to look at. You've got a base here. And then, you can build on it. [MUSIC PLAYING] You've done a first draft, and then, you've gone through, you've done a second draft and you've caught everything. And you've read it and thought about it more. You got your second draft. Then, find someone who's willing to read it. Find someone who likes to read. Someone who's maybe, whose opinion you trust. Find somebody-- a family member-- somebody who will read it. If you have somebody who is willing to read your manuscript, after they read it, ask them, what do you think of the characters? Which characters did you like? Did it seem real? Do the characters seem real? And how was the pacing? Do you think it dragged in some places? What do you think? Was there any place you didn't believe? Anything you didn't believe? What did you think? What did you think of the action? Those are the basic questions you want to ask, after a second draft. Find someone-- a lot of people have readers or they have reader clubs. A lot of writers I know, have first readers, and they do it for fun. Or they pay people. They say, just give me an opinion. Ask someone in your family who likes to read. Find somebody and just say, give me an opinion. And it'll help. When you're starting out, you don't have an editor. You don't have someone to tell you, go through it line by line. But to get an opinion on your first draft, just someone who says, gee, I loved the first part and then, it kind of dipped off. Or someone who says, oh, gee, that character just wasn't likable at all. I didn't want to like that person. That kind of help-- even though it's not coming from a professional, it'll still give you a clue ...


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Award-winning novelist R.L. Stine wrote jokes and funny stories for 20 years before he switched gears and became a horror-writing legend. Since then, the author of the Goosebumps and Fear Street series has sold more than 400 million copies. In his first-ever online writing class, Bob takes the fear out of crafting fiction. Whether you’re a beginner or a pro, you’ll learn new ways to conquer writer’s block, develop plots, and build nail-biting suspense that will thrill young readers.



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Students give MasterClass an average rating of 4.7 out of 5 stars.

This class has encouraged me in my story telling and educated me on areas I needed clarity in as a beginner writer. Mr. Stine's approach as an author and the honesty of his journey in writing/publishing has been helpful for me to understand no story process is perfect. I've learned some great technics I hope will help me stay on track and build up my endurance as a writer. Thank you!

Absolutely charming class, I found myself laughing out loud many times to R.L. Stine's sense of humor. What a great class on writing with joy!

loved the concept of working w/ an outline first

I drank this information in like a dry sponge. I liked how at the beginning of his career Bob stayed open and said yes to everything that came his way. You never know where the path of life will lead. Work hard- remain open. Good advice. Thank you so much Bob.


Comments

Zackary B.

r.l. stine i love yor books u ar amazing and i give the clas 253356316899 out of ten

Jacob R.

My biggest problem in my early writing was that my "editor" was always my mom. She never had anything bad to say about my work, even if I was kind of hoping for it. I look back at some of my old work and just facepalm.

Coe F.

I have two binders: one titled " YAY!! "and another titled "It's not personal." Guess which one is for my rejection letters ;)

Clara S.

Is Bob laughing at his critics? I would be too if my name was R.L. Stine Criticism can be negative or positive. I do not accept negative criticism. There are ways to critique a manuscript without getting personal or giving your own opinions. If there are not beta readers in the area and you need someone to read your first draft or manuscript I suggest getting online a guide on how to critique a manuscript and give it to the person reading your draft. writersdigest.com. Goodreads.com

Larry

Thoroughly enjoying what R.L. Stine has to say and love his wicked humour too. I found this somewhere online and reworked it just a tad (with apologies to the original author) as it is very useful and I thought relevant to this discussion. It is just common sense advice really. REVISION - ARMS Revise from writing session to writing session – do not revise after racing through an entire draft! Use the ARMS acronym: Add — Adding sentences and words to your scene description and dialogue to tell your story better. Remove —  Removing sentences and words from your scene description and dialogue to better embrace the “less is more” mantra. Move — Moving sentences and words from your scene description and dialogue to create better pacing, structure, and flow. Substitute — Substituting words and sentences for new ones to create better syntax, articulation, and style. EDITING – CUPS Editing is objective. Revision is subjective. Editing is checking for grammar, punctuation, spelling, etc. Use the CUPS acronym: Capitalize —  Capitalizing names, places, titles, months, and other elements. Example: If you’re writing a military script, lieutenant should be Lieutenant (titles). Usage —  Making sure that the usage of nouns and verbs is correct. Example: “Have you packed your luggages?” is incorrect. The correct version would be “Have you packed your luggage?”  While this example may seem extreme and silly, you’d be surprised how many mistakes like this are found in submitted screenplays. Punctuation — Making sure punctuation is correct by checking periods, quotes, commas, semicolons, apostrophes, etc. Spelling —  Spellchecking all words and looking for homophone mistakes.  Homophone Examples: Your and You’re. New and Knew. To and Too. There, Their, and They’re. Its and It’s. Then and Than. Effect and Affect. Cache and Cachet. Break and Brake. Principle and Principal. Breath and Breathe. Rain, reign, and rein. By, buy, and bye. Get someone to proofread it: this is NOT the same as revision.

Ryan L.

I was pretty terrified that my writing was horrible until I got some other people to check it out. One of my favorite films is Ed Wood, so I just kept thinking "Am I being that person who just can't see how obviously bad their work is?" Luckily, everyone I've showed it to loved it, and I was then able to take the suggestions for improvements and make it even better.

Shaey

SO, I am having a really hard time finding someone to read my first three chapters. How do you get feedback when your world is small, and you are not surrounded by readers? Ideas???

Rob G.

I was listening to another best selling author (Jerry Jenkins) talking about revising and he said that the more you can edit yourself and fix things in the manuscript, the less a publisher's editor has to do. It makes a much better impression when you're submitting a manuscript if the publisher can see you've done a lot of the editing work. This guy also talked about editing out redundant words. The phrase "he nodded his head in agreement" for instance can be edited down to "he nodded" (what else would he be nodding? And he'd hardly be nodding in disagreement).

Rob G.

I give him five stars here, because he made me laugh with that last little anecdote about the Amazon review. But seriously, this is all good stuff.

Nichole S.

Unfortunately, I've always been sensitive when it came to feedback. I even kept a little journal of poem ideas that I kept at my bedside, and I had left it on the bed while I would go watch tv and eat, but when I came back, my sister told me she read it and she told me they were all so cute and funny. The same happened with my brother. Some of the poems were meant to be cute and funny but others were not supposed to get that initial feeling so I felt really insulted and also doubtful that I couldn't write good and meaningful poetry. Also when I was writing a draft of a project I was sharing the prologue and the first chapter, I had gotten a lot of good feedback on them but saw two that suggested I take down the prologue, and that tore me up because the prologue was something I went for out of instincts and I was wondering if I shouldn't listen to my instincts anymore, and then worst thoughts came brewing in. I don't know why it's been like that, it just always has been that way for feedback or revisions for me. I hope that I can grow a little bit more thicker skin.